I'm sorry to keep posting, but as I read, I keep wanting to say more.

Susan, if you define lust as anything outside of what 'god' has planned, does that not come into conflict with the idea of predestination? If all actions were predetermined from the moment that the atomic forces were left to interact, than can you not say that there is no lust because all actions are part of the same great design? Besides, how do I know that 'god' didn't plan for men to like what they see, regardless of age or alternate social relations?

We are sexual animals, I'll agree. It is one of our forms of social lubrication. Your average married couple will have sex over 3,000 times (say a conservative average twice a week, 52 weeks a year for 30 years) and that's a conservative estimate. If they're only producing 2.1 children, there has to be a secondary function for this behavior. If there were a God who made man, he could have made it so that we would simply drop our eggs and sperm, joylessly and simultaneously, and then our genitals could fall off. If we were meant to be a pairbonding animal, than we would be wired so that it would be virtually impossible to cheat. Many mammals and most birds are rigged to be unable to cheat. If we were built, we were built to have primarily heterosexual unions, but prone cheat and to like sex and men and little girls, my evidence is that every documented society exhibits these trends. The market could not inflate drives that did not have some intrinsic base, we have a predisposition towards all of these behaviors as a species, and there is nothing "right" or "wrong" about what we cannot change.

Alex, I say there is no atonement. There is balance and there is progress, but Karma (encompassing both sin and benevolence) is various, and there are no discrete units of good or evil. There is no one for one. How can there be atonement? Just as you cannot unburn a tree or unsay an insult, you can only cultivate another and apologize. The second course of action does not undo the first or equal it perfectaly, but redirects the whole, just as creating a second bend in a river can straiten its direction but not its past.
The deeds you have done exist forever and simultaneously in the great architecture of existence, for the past and future, being physically predetermined, always have, and always will, exist in the same state.

posted by Adrian   [11:07 AM]

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